soup84
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Post by soup84 on Oct 10, 2006 21:47:42 GMT -5
Alright, now is the time to start talking 'bout a tournament team. I recomend we have a tryout kind of match (depending on how many ppl the tourn. allows per team). Weasel post what you have planned already, due to the fact that im to fat to copy-paste it. I plan on calling kastway tomorrow to talk to them 'bout getting my M16 fixed ;D , and I have the money to buy a drum and prolly a bipod.
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Post by weasel on Oct 10, 2006 21:51:03 GMT -5
I kinda figured teams would be like
My dad---Due to sheer 20yrs of experience hes prob. team leader and point ME---Demo--- fairly tactical and ---fairly well armed---Very good cqb guns and decent rifelman weapons Soup----Gunner---gotta fix m16 and buy a drum courtney---rifleman well armed for cqb or field----seemed tactical enough---reliable if he says hes gonna come ty---Has good gun---seems tactical---just gotta be 100% if hes gonan come to them or not Ying----Mock sniper----not sure on tactics----alergies make him not as hideable.
and then there misc. people who can fill in or whatever. such as tyler,steven ,souza,drew,etc...
Tour. are useually 5-6 man I figure when not in whole formation basically everyone has a partner
Me and soup--reason---Hes gunner I guard flank due to I'm mostly CQB My Dad and courtney--reason---Decent pair although jeffs not very armed courtney helps make that up.(working on jeff a good gas gun) Ty and Ying--reason---Seemed to work decently in the forest last time and tys rifle and decent set of binocualars will be nice for ying when hes snipeing.
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soup84
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Post by soup84 on Oct 10, 2006 22:13:24 GMT -5
I basically agree with Weasel, but I'm going to have to side with Afrika instead of Ying, on account of I haven't seen Ying play. This is why i want to have everyone meet that wants to be on the team so we can figure this out and start practising a little.
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Post by weasel on Oct 11, 2006 22:22:39 GMT -5
Well we're gonna have to work this out if ying gets the m249 SAW he's gunner and your infantry support.
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Post by afrikakorps on Oct 12, 2006 19:36:23 GMT -5
I would save money and NOT get a M249. Just get a FAMAS F-1, it comes with an integral bipod. Plus its durable, cheap, and drum mags are available. It easily keeps pace with a M249. 1000 RPM. 17 Rounds a second! Unless there are rules dictating a M249 is the standard.
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Post by weasel on Oct 13, 2006 15:23:48 GMT -5
A Stock Famas CANNOT keep up with a freaking SAW or the wouldn't make m249's they'd call famas's SAWS and drums for famas,mp5,and even m16 arn't as duarable as a m249 BOX MAG and famas don't have the huge sheer terror look of a m249.M249's are hi-metal content and famas (don't quote me) all ABS except internal. - screws and things of that caliber.
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soup84
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Post by soup84 on Oct 13, 2006 15:43:26 GMT -5
drums for famas,mp5,and even m16 arn't as duarable as a m249 BOX MAG That actually depends on the brand(ex. u can make a milimeter thick solid plastic box mag for a m249). I agree with everything else though. Anywayz back on subject, Steven wants to be on Tourn. Team (I think he's good enough skill wise) so we'll need to have a try out type thing like a meeting or somthing where we can evaluate skill and all that good stuff.
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Post by afrikakorps on Oct 14, 2006 1:34:20 GMT -5
Lets look at real steel versions of the FA MAS, and the FN Minime/SAW. The FA MAS is an assualt rifle, for general purpose or for special forces use. It is NOT an LMG, it has a high, blistering rate of fire (again 950RPM/1000RPM). Which acts as a lead hose, but by adding a drum magazine, it morphs into a psuedo-LMG weapon. Since its a bullpup, it RELOADS 3 times as fast as a RS SAW, or faster than a standard assualt rifle. The SAW is an LMG, its job is to kill things with as much wasted ammo as possible. But this is good because it gives the shooter an advantage in suppresive and defencive situations. But it fires at only 750RPM. Which is low, comparing it to other LMGs, such as the MG-3 (MG42 updated) which fires at 1,200RPM. In the world of airsoft, almost every AEG is equal. But many modifications make each one unique, powerful more shiny or more real steelish. If an AEG is metal, its naturally heavy. Making it more difficult to fire from the shoulder or lugging it around for 4 hours. Even a sling will start to wear on you. Thus, why not get something cheap, reliable, and easy to operate? Looks aren't scary, the amount of plastic flying at you is. They make M249s for afficinados of the SAW, and to take your money. The FA MAS is very easy to upgrade, contrary to popular belief.
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Post by weasel on Oct 14, 2006 12:16:59 GMT -5
TM Famas Length 760mm Weight 2.8kg Barrel Length 488mm Magazine Capacity 60 Ammo Size 6mm BB Muzzle Velocity 90m/s 285fps Rounds Per Minute 1000 Drums cost anywhere from $100-!50 useually
Famas reloads 3 times as fast but hold 60rd mags---winding hi-caps---and "drums' but those drums aren't as effective as drums manufactired by star specifically for the m249.Famas Have to much plastic and actually wont accept upgrades like a saw would the m249s internals are better quality and wiststand more force than stock TM gears
and you see someone set up a m249 saw it will rage more fear than a famas I don't find famas a very fear rageing gun like maybe a Ak or M16. A m249 puts out 300-340fps with .20g Where the famas puts out 280 with .20g
Star m249 SAW Gearbox type: Polycarb PGC Style Magazine capacity:High Cap: 2000Rds Lenght: 1045mm Muzzle velocity: 340fps Accuracy: 120 feet Battery pack size: Small Type Package includes: Manual, drum mag, Cleaning Rod, silver aluminum gun case
I don't know where you got your ROF estaments but m249 saws get around 1000RPM as well.The glock you have gets 1000rpm lots of airsoft guns reach this its not uncommon.And being hi-metal content saws are REALLY reliable.And airsoft guns aren't made for rocket sientist all arisoft are easy to use and if not they do send a manuel.And if you've done any research at all on the saw it doesn't need to be lugged on shoulder it has a carry handle on top and comes in a NICE case.And due to contrary belief it weighs 3300-3500grs and that famas weighs 2800-3000g so its not exactly lugging that much more weight anyhow.
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Post by Tai0314 on Oct 14, 2006 12:48:31 GMT -5
Yeah i don't have teh cash for a saw (or famas for that matter) I think I may just get a Matrix AK47 or a SRC M4. If I get the AK I'll prob get a drum mag and bipod for it to RPK the hell out of it, and if I get teh M4 I'll just get a lot of mags. And I mean alot.
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Post by weasel on Oct 14, 2006 13:44:25 GMT -5
Man for a little more than matrix utg has a new para folding stock ak REALLY NICE LOOKING and metal V2 gearbox.
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Post by afrikakorps on Oct 14, 2006 14:28:23 GMT -5
FN Minimi/SAW world.guns.ru/machine/mg17-e.htm\A Star M249MKII is about, what? $600? A TM FA MAS F-1 runs you about $215. That leaves alot of money left over to be spent on upgrades, mags, etc. Its just a suggestion. If you give n00b a FA MAS hes knows what to do, pull out the empty mag, replace with full, fire. Give him a SAW, OMG what do I do? I'm basing this on how you would reload a RS version. I don't know about the replica...
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Post by Tai0314 on Oct 14, 2006 14:31:37 GMT -5
Star M248 MKII is only 500 at certain places. As for reloading a M249, reloading is simple, just slide out the box, disconnect teh wire(or feeder depending of which one your using) and reconnect a new one and slide it back in.
As for teh Real M249 MKII it's easier. Slide out the used box, check the belt feed for any missing links, slide in a new box, and pull the belt trhough. YOu don't even have to pull teh chargin handle (or so I"ve heard)
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Post by afrikakorps on Oct 14, 2006 14:48:57 GMT -5
I know that, but you could already be shooting with a FA MAS half way through that. ;-)
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soup84
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Post by soup84 on Oct 14, 2006 16:29:01 GMT -5
Yea i wouldn't plan on bein gunner with a matrix AK with a bipod 'n drum mag. If I had taht all i'd to with it is scratch my big toe. Anyways you should save up for the saw anyway cuz nothings going to happen for a while.
Edit- The M4 looks good though.
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